rider26 - 28 June 2009 08:51 PM

Yeah that's the fluoro universal. It's basically all I use - awesome!

Hmmmm, I should get some of this stuff
Good for base prep and final wax

How does the All temp Wax compare? I've been having good results between Oz and Tahoe with a 50-50 mix of warm and cold temp iron-on. It holds up to most all conditions without slowin me down on wet or in deep.

Universal is all temp. I find universal/all temp is the best overall choice, unless you are riding spring slush. Even on the best of days you get mixed snow conditions on the mountain.

I've heard/been told that the flouro waxes can be quite carcenogenic and you have to be very careful when using them.

That wouldn't surprise me. If there is ever any smoke coming off the iron, turn the temperature down! You should always wax in a ventilated area too.

rider26 - 30 April 2010 01:08 PM

That wouldn't surprise me. If there is ever any smoke coming off the iron, turn the temperature down! You should always wax in a ventilated area too.

Yea, I do all my waxing outside- My iron always smokes but I've been using it for forever

i just finished getting the summer wax on my 7 boards. phew, no more waxing til november!

next up, nikwax-ing my jacket

rider26 - 30 April 2010 01:08 PM

You should always wax in a ventilated area too.

Hahahahahaha, you should of seen the dungeon I worked in the last two seasons.......... ventilation ha, thats for sooks and breathing apparatus, never!!!
So I will die 20 years early, slowly and with great pain, it was worth it for two seasons I will never forget as the best times of my life !!!!

snowdragon - 14 May 2010 02:58 PM

rider26 - 30 April 2010 01:08 PM

That wouldn't surprise me. If there is ever any smoke coming off the iron, turn the temperature down! You should always wax in a ventilated area too.

Yea, I do all my waxing outside- My iron always smokes but I've been using it for forever

I try hard to take my time and let the iron warm, and melt the wax slowly.... but I almost always get that thing smoking.... it takes a bit of patience. I still try and eventually I'll get the process down pat.

As for scraping - I highly suggest doing it outside. Sadly you're scraping outside in the cold and often the night before you go ride etc...
Cold = harder wax, and harder to scrape etc.
I've made a big mess once in a rented condo that was way nice and I should have scraped it all outside.

Wax flakes always get everywhere.

waxing outside (unless you're cleaning up your flakes, or using biodegradeable wax) is environmentally unfriendly

Gamblor - 15 May 2010 02:31 PM

waxing outside (unless you're cleaning up your flakes, or using biodegradeable wax) is environmentally unfriendly

My shop vac Loves eating my scrapings off the back porch- I'm not allowed to tune inside, apparently wax bits everywhere is a bad thing

ah, nice one. shop vac ftw!

So do you guys just use one wax at a time?

I play with a few different waxes in layers.

Have a look at the cross country folks websites and forums, they are the masters of waxing !!!!

Different waxes in layers? I've never heard of such a thing. Wouldnt it all melt together when ironing? I cant picture how that works. Nor would I want to take the time that I imagine it would take. at this point I'm thinking you are making a joke, too, so I dont know.

I dont like waxing. I used to feel like it was enjoyable or something, but really now it's just annoying. if I need a wax bad, I think I'd rather pay someone $25 to do is (USD) vs. taking the hour or two to do it myself.... Keep in mind, whenever I'm waxing, I'm doing at least 2 boards at a time sometimes up to 4.


As for the wax flakes outside being not environmentally friendly... I think the whole process is unfriendly to the environment... That smoke coming from the iron sure seems toxic! and the runoff the mountain from the wax wearing out on hill cant be good either.
I would prefer to wax indoors, because I can sweep and clean up, throwing away the scrape. I've even tried to recycle the scraped wax, but I learned that the wax that rses to the top and that which you scrape off is where the "junk" is that comes off your base - so it is not good to reuse at that point.

No jokes snowslider, you can use different layers of base preps and waxes to create a better finish for longer lasting and better preformance.
Have a look HERE

When I did Alpine Technicians training, I had an tutor who taught me lots of tricky things with waxes.

Ask any World Cup rider for Boarder Cross, Slalom, GS etc etc etc about how important tuning and wax choice is.

Well worth a look if you want to go a bit faster and smoother.